Friday, February 12, 2010

I would like to know if my grandson can use his Rossi 22/410 combo to hunt deer?

That is with the 410 barrel (modified choke) %26amp; slugs. I am referring to whether he can safely use this gun/barrel combination with slugs. It is the barrel that comes with the original package, he does not have the rifled barrel. I would guess that if the barrel is proofed for shotshells it is safe with slugs but I would appreciate replies from anyone with experience in this matter or technical knowledge of this gun. Thank you.I would like to know if my grandson can use his Rossi 22/410 combo to hunt deer?
Yes. A .410 shotgun capable of firing shot will fire slugs. Both are held to the same 12,500 PSI (13,500 PSI for 3'; shells) pressure ceiling. For that matter, most .410 slugs are actually undersized since the majority of .410 shotgun barrels are fully choked from the factory.





And .410 slug isn't really a good deer load. Yes, it develops 650 to 800 ft/lbs of kinetic energy at the muzzle (putting it squarely between .357 Magnum and .41 Magnum in terms of energy,) but a shotgun slug isn't the most streamlined of projectiles, so velocity drops off rapidly. At 100 yards the kinetic energy is in the neighborhood of 200 to 230 ft/lbs. For best results, and assuming you live in a state which permits such a thing, one would have to use a .410 shotgun at ranges well under fifty yards.I would like to know if my grandson can use his Rossi 22/410 combo to hunt deer?
Most states will not allow a 410 for deer.


You need to check with you states Department of Wildlife for the requirements for deer hunting.
Well, a .50BMG will not stop a deer either without hitting it in the spine or the brain (the latter is not recommended).





That said, I WOULD NOT recommend using a .410 on deer. A .410 slug is about as powerful as a .44 Magnum, which isn't saying much.





Don't get me wrong though. Under 75 yards or so, the .44 Magnum is an effective deer cartridge. The problem is that the .410 slugs don't share some of the .44's important characteristics.





The .44 Magnum is almost always shot out of a rifled barrel, giving greater accuracy than a .410 shot out of a modified choke.





Another thing is that the .44 Magnum should be loaded with expanding bullets (these greatly increase the hit's effectiveness on large game such as deer) when used for hunting. The problem here is that, advertised as doing so or not, shotgun slugs DO NOT expand effectively. A .44 Magnum does.





As to the question of safety, the gun should handle it fine. I have heard of people shooting 12 gauge slugs through chokes with no problems.





But, be aware of what happens when you shoot a slug through a choke. The slug will be squeezed into the choke, further reducing accuracy.





Personally, I'd buy him a centerfire for deer, but it's your call. I wouldn't recommend doing it with a modified choke, but with a rifled barrel, it could be done with some degree of efficiency.





One last thing is that with such a set-up, I would recommend a double lung shot over the shoulder shot, as the .410 would have questionable power for going through the tough shoulders of a deer.
should be perfectly safe-depending on the condition of the gun


anyone who says a .410 is too weak a round to take a deer must not be able to shoot


I have seen more deer taken with a .410 or a .22 than any other rounds


illegal in Ohio? since when?
kinda week in firepower if its all you got go for it but gona have to be close shooting deer is all placment of the round i seen a deer run 2 miles with a gut shot 30-06 and one drop dead with one shot of 22
It will be safe for slugs, a rifled slug will give it more accuracy but I'm not sure if it is powerful enough to stop a deer and it may be illegal under your state's hunting regulations. Make sure you check that out first.
Illegal in some states and not a good idea in the others, the 410 slug would only be equivalent to a good stout 38/40 load inside 50 yards, but it's terribly inaccurate, and the Remington slugs (and I think the Brennekes) are made for cylinder bores. Winchester slugs will shoot in a modified-improved, but I think you're pushing things about two steps beyond reasonable with the modified choke.
It depends on his abilities with the firearm. If he understands ';sight picture'; and can hit the animal in the head or heart then a .22 will kill a full grown deer. I've seen alot of people do so. However, do not buy the Rossi as it has a lot of maintenance issues. I see more of these guns in my shop than any other. It will hurt his confidence. Now the .410 with proper 3'; shell will do the job alittle easier.
No. I have never heard of .410 deer hunting. It is illegal in Ohio.

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