No!
Blue Tongue Disease or Hemorrhagic Disease in deers caused by Reoviridae virus is nontransferable to humans. It can only be carried by biting insects such as mosquitoes infected with the disease.
Blue tongue virus does not survive outside the insect vectors or susceptible hosts. Also, animal carcases and products such as meat and wool are not a method of spread.Is blue tongue that deer have harmful to humans?
NO!
Wednesday, February 10, 2010
Is there a decent deer hunting rifle for about $250?
I am looking into buying a deer hunting rifle. I have about $250 to spend, is there any decent rifle i can get for that amount of money? If there is please tell me. Thanks!!Is there a decent deer hunting rifle for about $250?
Decent is a taste that differs from person to person. For low budget hunting for deer I would say by a Mosin Nagant, A surplus rifle cost anywhere from $90-$$140 dollars these days. I got mine, for $100, nice little ';it's been cut down'; truck rifle and brush gun, however the 7.62x54R round it shoots is around 20 for $20 for lead nose hunting rounds, last time I went to Big 5. It's basically as Russian 30-06, basically I said. I find that a decent gun for deer hunting, but everyone has their own taste.
Also another budget friendly rifle is the H%26amp;R rifles ';Handi-Rifles'; Here's a link for 7mm-08 http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/defau鈥?/a> the 243 Win is sold out there. They're break action, single shot guns. They break down and are fine guns. I own several of them, .22, .223, 243 Win, 270, 7mm-08 and they all work wonderfully.
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/yo鈥?/a>
Skill is more important in hunting than your firearm. Many deer have fallen and been killed even by the Not Legal for deer.22LR round. Shot placement is more important than caliber.
You can find plenty of used rifles that fit your budget at Gunbroker.com, not advertising for them, just simply giving you a site.
Mack 9 is right too, for around, if not, $130 dollars they will take your receiver and fit another barrel for it.Is there a decent deer hunting rifle for about $250?
Speaking of H%26amp;R, they make a Pardner single shot rifle for just a little over $250. They are single shot, which is all you normally should need to shoot a deer. They are available for many calibers. One nice thing about them is that you can send it to H%26amp;R and for $130 they will install another caliber rifle barrel on it and can even install a shotgun barrel for even less. You can not get a rifle barrel put one one of their shotguns.
Yes, H%26amp;R makes a 12 gauge called the Ultra Slug. I have done reviews because I want this gun as well. You can shoot minute of the angle with Hastings Laser Accurate Slugs. With that slug gun you can put a 58 caliber round down range at around 2000 feet per second and will have 2000 pounds of kenetic energy at 100 yards, which is enough to take down a cape buffalo. You can get the gun and a cheaper scope combo for around 220. Rossi makes a .243 that is usually at any Dunhams Sporting Goods for around 250 bucks. My girlfriends dad uses a .243 and has gotten many deer with it and one doe was 317 yards away. It is a flat shooting light bullet only around 85 grains. You can get 110 grain bullets for more :knock down'; power.
A .257 is a good rifle, my grandpa shoots one but his is a Weatherby and is way out of your price range. If you can find one they are great.
If you want to contact me via email I would have no problem answering anymore questions you may have.
Sharpen your marksmanship skills. Get a Winchester model 94. Make it fair for the deer by aiming well so the animal goes down wthout suffering. If you can't make your shot with the 94, you shouldn't hunt.
You can find a Marlin model 336 caliber 30-30 win. lever-action rifle on gunbroker.com that is within your budget. It's a very well built gun that has been killing deer for years.
New try a savage stevens 200 or Mossberg 100 ATR .
Used try Savage,Rem 700,ruger m77,win 70,Vanguard,Howa...but, for 250.00 you won't find many unless they are in very used condition.
Try Wal-Mart.
mosin nagant $100
Decent is a taste that differs from person to person. For low budget hunting for deer I would say by a Mosin Nagant, A surplus rifle cost anywhere from $90-$$140 dollars these days. I got mine, for $100, nice little ';it's been cut down'; truck rifle and brush gun, however the 7.62x54R round it shoots is around 20 for $20 for lead nose hunting rounds, last time I went to Big 5. It's basically as Russian 30-06, basically I said. I find that a decent gun for deer hunting, but everyone has their own taste.
Also another budget friendly rifle is the H%26amp;R rifles ';Handi-Rifles'; Here's a link for 7mm-08 http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/defau鈥?/a> the 243 Win is sold out there. They're break action, single shot guns. They break down and are fine guns. I own several of them, .22, .223, 243 Win, 270, 7mm-08 and they all work wonderfully.
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/yo鈥?/a>
Skill is more important in hunting than your firearm. Many deer have fallen and been killed even by the Not Legal for deer.22LR round. Shot placement is more important than caliber.
You can find plenty of used rifles that fit your budget at Gunbroker.com, not advertising for them, just simply giving you a site.
Mack 9 is right too, for around, if not, $130 dollars they will take your receiver and fit another barrel for it.Is there a decent deer hunting rifle for about $250?
Speaking of H%26amp;R, they make a Pardner single shot rifle for just a little over $250. They are single shot, which is all you normally should need to shoot a deer. They are available for many calibers. One nice thing about them is that you can send it to H%26amp;R and for $130 they will install another caliber rifle barrel on it and can even install a shotgun barrel for even less. You can not get a rifle barrel put one one of their shotguns.
Yes, H%26amp;R makes a 12 gauge called the Ultra Slug. I have done reviews because I want this gun as well. You can shoot minute of the angle with Hastings Laser Accurate Slugs. With that slug gun you can put a 58 caliber round down range at around 2000 feet per second and will have 2000 pounds of kenetic energy at 100 yards, which is enough to take down a cape buffalo. You can get the gun and a cheaper scope combo for around 220. Rossi makes a .243 that is usually at any Dunhams Sporting Goods for around 250 bucks. My girlfriends dad uses a .243 and has gotten many deer with it and one doe was 317 yards away. It is a flat shooting light bullet only around 85 grains. You can get 110 grain bullets for more :knock down'; power.
A .257 is a good rifle, my grandpa shoots one but his is a Weatherby and is way out of your price range. If you can find one they are great.
If you want to contact me via email I would have no problem answering anymore questions you may have.
Sharpen your marksmanship skills. Get a Winchester model 94. Make it fair for the deer by aiming well so the animal goes down wthout suffering. If you can't make your shot with the 94, you shouldn't hunt.
You can find a Marlin model 336 caliber 30-30 win. lever-action rifle on gunbroker.com that is within your budget. It's a very well built gun that has been killing deer for years.
New try a savage stevens 200 or Mossberg 100 ATR .
Used try Savage,Rem 700,ruger m77,win 70,Vanguard,Howa...but, for 250.00 you won't find many unless they are in very used condition.
Try Wal-Mart.
mosin nagant $100
Does anyone know the web sjte for (Acorn Rage Deer Feed)?
http://www.wildgameinnovations.com/produ鈥?/a>Does anyone know the web sjte for (Acorn Rage Deer Feed)?
nope!! sorry i couldnt help!!
nope!! sorry i couldnt help!!
Why dont the deer hangout with the cows?
they are both herd animals and often do graze together . deer are wild animals where cows are domesticated , and fences meen very little to deer who come and go as they pleaseWhy dont the deer hangout with the cows?
But they do morning and eveningsWhy dont the deer hangout with the cows?
They hang out with the cows around here quite often, fences dont mean a thing. They dont exactly mingle, but they share the pasture. They do know they are different.
They don't ';hang out'; but they do graze together. You just don't see them out in the middle of the day as much as cows.
But they do morning and eveningsWhy dont the deer hangout with the cows?
They hang out with the cows around here quite often, fences dont mean a thing. They dont exactly mingle, but they share the pasture. They do know they are different.
They don't ';hang out'; but they do graze together. You just don't see them out in the middle of the day as much as cows.
Does anyone Hunt Deer with .223 Caliber Rifle?
I live in Michigan below the rifle line which means we have to use shotgun. We are planning a hunting trip in Wisconsin where rifles are allowed. I was thinking about using my AR-15 with a scope and a 5 round hunting clip I bought. Is .223 strong enough to kill deer? Have anyone used it with success? I figure if the military uses it against people it should probably be good enought to get deer too, or is this logic flawed? Bonus for personal expierence.Does anyone Hunt Deer with .223 Caliber Rifle?
Martin..If you check on line with the DNR or Wisconsin Game Commission, you will find that it's legal to hunt Deer with a .223 caliber rifle. ANY ';center fire'; Rifle or pistol can be used with the exception of .22 long rifle (rim fire). Wisconsin is a very liberal hunting state and their regulations are unique and not heard of or followed in most other states. You do have restrictions as to the number of rounds you can carry. I believe it is limited to (6) rounds. But you have that covered also with the 5 shot magazine you mentioned. And Finally..YES the .223 bullet will be enough to kill a Deer with a well placed shot.Good Luck! I have personally killed several Whitetail Deer in states that allow the .223 caliber to be used to hunt......NOTE ### Your logic isn't flawed, it's just a logical conclusion that's debateable (especially here on this forum)Does anyone Hunt Deer with .223 Caliber Rifle?
I would say no because of Ethical reasons, either buy a larger caliber weapon or stick with your shot gun.
To use too small of weapon because you wont to save money, is not right.
What鈥檚 the next guy going to wont to use his 22 LR because center fire ammo is too high.
Either be an Ethical hunter or save even more money and just stay home.
If your going to hunt you owe it to the wildlife to use enough weapon to insure a humane one shot kill.
Are you that good with this 223, that you can guarantee a one shot kill.
Is the 223 able to kill a deer?
Yes , but in the hands of a true marksman only, and if you had to ask the question, then your not up to speed enough to attempt that shot.
Why take a chance at being inhumane to any game animal, just to save a buck.
I鈥檝e had to clean up after too many lousy shooters with too small of caliber.
2 years ago I had to call the game warden on my cell phone to get permission to put down a nice young 6 point buck that some @ss hole blew it鈥檚 lower jaw completely off and it was starving to death and dehydrated because it could not drink either.
That was the very worst I鈥檝e seen so far, most of the ones I call in on have shattered legs flopping in the wind.
Do it right and get a larger caliber or stay at home.
Every state should outlay the use of the 223 for deer, not because it鈥檚 not capable.
But because most hunters are not capable of that kind of precision shooting.
D58
Hunting with Rifle, Pistol, Muzzle loader and Bow for over 3 decades.
Reloading Rifle, Pistol and shotgun for over 3 decades.
I have shot Whitetail Deer with 218 Bee, 222 caliber, no problem*.. The key factor here is bullet placement, so I don't see any problem using the 223 providing you place your shot correctly*..
The .223 is a varmint gun. In many States it is not legal to use anything smaller than a .243 Winchester on deer. Practically speaking the .243 is the minimum deer gun.
Back to your question. When I was young and foolish I shot two deer with a .223 and they had to be shot twice. Not pretty. Not something I'll do again. Problem with small caliber bullets like the .223 for deer hunting is that even though they eventually do kill the deer they do it too slow. Often the deer is condemned to a slow lingering death and the hunter will not bring his venison home.
Best.
H
It will work, but I don't know if it's legal in your state. I know that it's illegal in Kansas, but I've seen people use them down in Texas.
not me. Use my black rifle for paper and SHTF box.
for hooved game i use my New England SB2 in 30.06.
.223 can leave a critter severely injured.. I prefer to harvest humanely.. Sure it's good enough if you get a vitals shot. But it will take longer to bleed out.
You probably need to check your state regs. Some states disallow calibers smaller the 243 on hooved animals.
It CAN be used to hunt deer, although you better make sure it is a perfect shot to kill it humanely. I'd rather go with something a little more powerful, such as a .270, .308, or .30-06
NO
i live in texas and i live on a ranch and do all of my hunting on it, a perfect shot to the heart might do the trick but you are going to be tracking for a while, if there is any way you can get your hands on a .243 or what i use a 30-06 would be your best bet, and with that .223 you are going to have to be pretty close to shoot it...unless you dont care about mounts and you go for the head...dont throat shot it...at least i wouldnt...smaller caliber means more tracking and more likley the deer will survive
You can but your gun should have a least a 1:9 spin.
If your gun has a 1:8 spin it can shoot 70gr projectiles that where actually made for hunting deer which are heavily constructed.
hell no, the law states that you need a .24 caliber or larger to hunt deer, if you have a gun in any caliber above a .24 take it if not ,borrow a gun from a friend or rent one,if not youre screwed.
I often use a 223 to hunt deer here in New Zealand where we have Fallow deer and white tail. (a bit smaller than your white tail I believe) Use atleast 60Gr projectiles and go to head or lung shots. Barnes Triple shocks are a good bullet to use. Remember if you can kill a vermint at 250 yards then you can kill a deer.
You can use it. The key is shot placement, keep the range to about 100 yards and use a well constructed bullet. The 60 Nolser partition or Winchester 64 grain powerpoint in a 1:9 twist would be my choice.
There are a few states that allow it, but most states require a larger caliber, and for good reason. With small, very high velocity bullets, you'll have to have both perfect shot placement and perfect bullet performance. And this has nothing in common with military applications. The normal ratio of wounded-to-killed soldiers is 3 or 4 to one, completely unacceptable in hunting. And there are very few .224'; bullets that are made to perform properly, all strictly handloading propositions. I personally killed probably over a hundred deer with a 6mm, with bullets designed for the purpose, but had enough bullet failures that I eventually gave it up for larger and slightly slower bullets that wouldn't break up on the surface.
Perhaps you could consider a black powder rifle? There
may be more utility and at a better price...besides- it's FUN.
Martyr misread what you wrote, but he's right about wounding troops vs. outright killing them.
I live in Illinois, so i can only use shotguns, but i use rifles often. I hunt coyotes with a .243, which is the minimum in most of the rifle states (a few states allow the use of .223's) and it kills them with ease, but they are much smaller than deer. I can tell you that a .243 is all you ever need for deer, and it will kill it with a good shot. I dont know why people like using calibers that are suited for bear to shoot deer, they are much smaller and not as dangerous. With a good shot, the .223 will kill a deer, but chck the laws in Wisconsin to see if the .223 is legal. If not, find something else.
I have watched deer be shot by the .223 Remington, but with extremely precise shot placement on the hunters part. It's little 55 grain bullet is far too small. Also, most bullets made for the .223 are for varmints, and fragment upon impact, something you do not want for deer. I will never use anything smaller than a .270 Winchester. Please try to borrow something else my friend. Best of luck.
The legal issues have been answered above. The only other thing to look at is if a semi-automatic rifle is permitted.
I live in PA and hunt with 222, 30-30, and 30-06. I have killed deer with one shot from each of these guns. If you are comfortable with your gun, you are confident in your accuracy, and have put in adequate time at the range with this rifle, then you are by far better off with it than a rifle you borrowed from a buddy. You won't feel comfortable with that, be sure of its accuracy, or have put enough rounds through it to know what to expect.
A 52 grain hollow point through the lungs and heart will kill a deer as fast as a 180 grain.
Good luck and have fun.
Buy heavy bullets 4 ur rifle twist which is prolly 1:9 which means buy 62 grainers and aim 4 CNS shots ( central nervous system).
it is POSSIBLE kill a deer with a .223, but i don't recommend it. it is designed to shoot coyote, which are generally about 60 pounds, but deer can get up to 220 pounds. it all depends on shot placement. i would only go as small as a .25/06 for whitetail, and that's with good shot placement.
i advice against it.
It is illegal in almost EVERY state to hunt with a .223 or lower. Your logic is flawed BTW. We want to wound people not kill them. If you wound someone, you take (2) people out of the fight. Someone will come to their rescue. That is our logic.
Martin..If you check on line with the DNR or Wisconsin Game Commission, you will find that it's legal to hunt Deer with a .223 caliber rifle. ANY ';center fire'; Rifle or pistol can be used with the exception of .22 long rifle (rim fire). Wisconsin is a very liberal hunting state and their regulations are unique and not heard of or followed in most other states. You do have restrictions as to the number of rounds you can carry. I believe it is limited to (6) rounds. But you have that covered also with the 5 shot magazine you mentioned. And Finally..YES the .223 bullet will be enough to kill a Deer with a well placed shot.Good Luck! I have personally killed several Whitetail Deer in states that allow the .223 caliber to be used to hunt......NOTE ### Your logic isn't flawed, it's just a logical conclusion that's debateable (especially here on this forum)Does anyone Hunt Deer with .223 Caliber Rifle?
I would say no because of Ethical reasons, either buy a larger caliber weapon or stick with your shot gun.
To use too small of weapon because you wont to save money, is not right.
What鈥檚 the next guy going to wont to use his 22 LR because center fire ammo is too high.
Either be an Ethical hunter or save even more money and just stay home.
If your going to hunt you owe it to the wildlife to use enough weapon to insure a humane one shot kill.
Are you that good with this 223, that you can guarantee a one shot kill.
Is the 223 able to kill a deer?
Yes , but in the hands of a true marksman only, and if you had to ask the question, then your not up to speed enough to attempt that shot.
Why take a chance at being inhumane to any game animal, just to save a buck.
I鈥檝e had to clean up after too many lousy shooters with too small of caliber.
2 years ago I had to call the game warden on my cell phone to get permission to put down a nice young 6 point buck that some @ss hole blew it鈥檚 lower jaw completely off and it was starving to death and dehydrated because it could not drink either.
That was the very worst I鈥檝e seen so far, most of the ones I call in on have shattered legs flopping in the wind.
Do it right and get a larger caliber or stay at home.
Every state should outlay the use of the 223 for deer, not because it鈥檚 not capable.
But because most hunters are not capable of that kind of precision shooting.
D58
Hunting with Rifle, Pistol, Muzzle loader and Bow for over 3 decades.
Reloading Rifle, Pistol and shotgun for over 3 decades.
I have shot Whitetail Deer with 218 Bee, 222 caliber, no problem*.. The key factor here is bullet placement, so I don't see any problem using the 223 providing you place your shot correctly*..
The .223 is a varmint gun. In many States it is not legal to use anything smaller than a .243 Winchester on deer. Practically speaking the .243 is the minimum deer gun.
Back to your question. When I was young and foolish I shot two deer with a .223 and they had to be shot twice. Not pretty. Not something I'll do again. Problem with small caliber bullets like the .223 for deer hunting is that even though they eventually do kill the deer they do it too slow. Often the deer is condemned to a slow lingering death and the hunter will not bring his venison home.
Best.
H
It will work, but I don't know if it's legal in your state. I know that it's illegal in Kansas, but I've seen people use them down in Texas.
not me. Use my black rifle for paper and SHTF box.
for hooved game i use my New England SB2 in 30.06.
.223 can leave a critter severely injured.. I prefer to harvest humanely.. Sure it's good enough if you get a vitals shot. But it will take longer to bleed out.
You probably need to check your state regs. Some states disallow calibers smaller the 243 on hooved animals.
It CAN be used to hunt deer, although you better make sure it is a perfect shot to kill it humanely. I'd rather go with something a little more powerful, such as a .270, .308, or .30-06
NO
i live in texas and i live on a ranch and do all of my hunting on it, a perfect shot to the heart might do the trick but you are going to be tracking for a while, if there is any way you can get your hands on a .243 or what i use a 30-06 would be your best bet, and with that .223 you are going to have to be pretty close to shoot it...unless you dont care about mounts and you go for the head...dont throat shot it...at least i wouldnt...smaller caliber means more tracking and more likley the deer will survive
You can but your gun should have a least a 1:9 spin.
If your gun has a 1:8 spin it can shoot 70gr projectiles that where actually made for hunting deer which are heavily constructed.
hell no, the law states that you need a .24 caliber or larger to hunt deer, if you have a gun in any caliber above a .24 take it if not ,borrow a gun from a friend or rent one,if not youre screwed.
I often use a 223 to hunt deer here in New Zealand where we have Fallow deer and white tail. (a bit smaller than your white tail I believe) Use atleast 60Gr projectiles and go to head or lung shots. Barnes Triple shocks are a good bullet to use. Remember if you can kill a vermint at 250 yards then you can kill a deer.
You can use it. The key is shot placement, keep the range to about 100 yards and use a well constructed bullet. The 60 Nolser partition or Winchester 64 grain powerpoint in a 1:9 twist would be my choice.
There are a few states that allow it, but most states require a larger caliber, and for good reason. With small, very high velocity bullets, you'll have to have both perfect shot placement and perfect bullet performance. And this has nothing in common with military applications. The normal ratio of wounded-to-killed soldiers is 3 or 4 to one, completely unacceptable in hunting. And there are very few .224'; bullets that are made to perform properly, all strictly handloading propositions. I personally killed probably over a hundred deer with a 6mm, with bullets designed for the purpose, but had enough bullet failures that I eventually gave it up for larger and slightly slower bullets that wouldn't break up on the surface.
Perhaps you could consider a black powder rifle? There
may be more utility and at a better price...besides- it's FUN.
Martyr misread what you wrote, but he's right about wounding troops vs. outright killing them.
I live in Illinois, so i can only use shotguns, but i use rifles often. I hunt coyotes with a .243, which is the minimum in most of the rifle states (a few states allow the use of .223's) and it kills them with ease, but they are much smaller than deer. I can tell you that a .243 is all you ever need for deer, and it will kill it with a good shot. I dont know why people like using calibers that are suited for bear to shoot deer, they are much smaller and not as dangerous. With a good shot, the .223 will kill a deer, but chck the laws in Wisconsin to see if the .223 is legal. If not, find something else.
I have watched deer be shot by the .223 Remington, but with extremely precise shot placement on the hunters part. It's little 55 grain bullet is far too small. Also, most bullets made for the .223 are for varmints, and fragment upon impact, something you do not want for deer. I will never use anything smaller than a .270 Winchester. Please try to borrow something else my friend. Best of luck.
The legal issues have been answered above. The only other thing to look at is if a semi-automatic rifle is permitted.
I live in PA and hunt with 222, 30-30, and 30-06. I have killed deer with one shot from each of these guns. If you are comfortable with your gun, you are confident in your accuracy, and have put in adequate time at the range with this rifle, then you are by far better off with it than a rifle you borrowed from a buddy. You won't feel comfortable with that, be sure of its accuracy, or have put enough rounds through it to know what to expect.
A 52 grain hollow point through the lungs and heart will kill a deer as fast as a 180 grain.
Good luck and have fun.
Buy heavy bullets 4 ur rifle twist which is prolly 1:9 which means buy 62 grainers and aim 4 CNS shots ( central nervous system).
it is POSSIBLE kill a deer with a .223, but i don't recommend it. it is designed to shoot coyote, which are generally about 60 pounds, but deer can get up to 220 pounds. it all depends on shot placement. i would only go as small as a .25/06 for whitetail, and that's with good shot placement.
i advice against it.
It is illegal in almost EVERY state to hunt with a .223 or lower. Your logic is flawed BTW. We want to wound people not kill them. If you wound someone, you take (2) people out of the fight. Someone will come to their rescue. That is our logic.
Does anyone know how long you can keep deer salami after you thaw it out?
My Butcher who makes mine tells me that it will last about 10 days to 2 weeks wrapped well and refrigerated after being thawed out. He uses Beef suet like most do and he says that after the 2 weeks are up the fat starts to break down and the meat begins to spoil. I wouldn't know this because around my crew it never lasts more than a week, so I've never been able to test this theory...........lolDoes anyone know how long you can keep deer salami after you thaw it out?
7-10 days.Does anyone know how long you can keep deer salami after you thaw it out?
Mmmmm....salami!
Well, it depends on the preservatives and salt put in it. Commercial salami can keep a very long time without refrigeration, however for handmade venison salami I'd say it will keep a few weeks in the fridge. Just look out for mold and bad smell.
Unopened in the fridge about 2 weeks. I've never had any last that long since I make my own. Always have plenty of willing participants to share with. For me they last about one beer and BS session with 4 people. At least some of them bring crackers and some cheese.
I find it will last up to two weeks in the fridge. I just keep eating it until it's gone or until it shows mold...lol.
ive keep it up to a week ,just keep it cool!
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7-10 days.Does anyone know how long you can keep deer salami after you thaw it out?
Mmmmm....salami!
Well, it depends on the preservatives and salt put in it. Commercial salami can keep a very long time without refrigeration, however for handmade venison salami I'd say it will keep a few weeks in the fridge. Just look out for mold and bad smell.
Unopened in the fridge about 2 weeks. I've never had any last that long since I make my own. Always have plenty of willing participants to share with. For me they last about one beer and BS session with 4 people. At least some of them bring crackers and some cheese.
I find it will last up to two weeks in the fridge. I just keep eating it until it's gone or until it shows mold...lol.
ive keep it up to a week ,just keep it cool!
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